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ANXIETY: Fear vs. Control: Breaking the Cycle of Anxiety | Love By Faith with Kyle & Selina Almodovar #078

Kyle & Selina Almodovar Season 2 Episode 78

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Anxiety is born from fear and our desire to control situations beyond our reach. In this episode, we confront anxiety at its source-- fear vs. control-- and share about breaking the cycle of anxiety. 

We explore how anxiety impacts marriages, attacks individuals, and stems from feeling overwhelmed by life's uncertainties.

• Anxiety fundamentally comes from fear – fear of outcomes, others' reactions, or lack of control
• The "five-foot radius" concept helps identify what we can actually control versus what we cannot
• Even strong Christians experience anxiety; having faith doesn't automatically eliminate anxiety
• Jesus doesn't calm every storm immediately – we must actively choose to go to Him
• Asking "what is the next right thing to do?" helps break anxiety's spiral of overwhelming thoughts
• Scripture memorization plants truth in our subconscious that surfaces during anxious moments
• Exposing fears by naming them specifically helps reduce their perceived size and power
• Overcoming anxiety is a process, not a one-time fix; tools and scripture help fight ongoing battles

Join us next week as we discuss how to specifically help your partner when they're experiencing anxiety, whether in momentary situations or ongoing struggles.

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Speaker 1:

We've been talking about anxiety, and so in today's episode we are going to talk about fear versus anxiety versus controlling.

Speaker 2:

And this is just me worrying, fearing that this is going to happen. There's no indicator that this is true.

Speaker 1:

I am calling on God and I am trying to focus on the word, and I still feel out of control. I still feel anxiety. We're not perfect people.

Speaker 2:

By any means.

Speaker 1:

But by trusting in God we learned what it takes to build a friendship a relationship and marriage that has stood the test of time.

Speaker 2:

With a keeping it real style. We're going to talk to you about everything everything that we've been through are going through and have overcome all by learning how to lean on God and each other in order to help you learn how to love by faith.

Speaker 1:

Good morning, Kyle.

Speaker 2:

Hey, Selena you look great.

Speaker 1:

I like this blue it's. It's starting to be summer, right, feels good. Last couple days, yeah, you're. I feel like you are getting all of your summer vibes like already locked and loaded, like your grass is crisp. Your, your pool is getting good for most you're. You're fishing, bird watching, like all the summer things that makes kyle kyle it is nice, I do.

Speaker 1:

You're enjoying falling into your element do enjoy me some summer, it's like how mariah carey breaks out at thanksgiving out of the ice kyle is now chipped out of the ice and he has entered into kyle season in bloom, in full bloom well, kyle in full bloom, kyle. If you were a flower, what would you be? A flower or you could be a plant because you're a man. So if you, if you feel like flowers are too feminine, you'd be like a sycamore tree or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, the trees are a real well-used answer there. I would be, I don't know. Oh, you don't like it when you're on the spot with questions of randomness, do you?

Speaker 1:

It's not so fun when it's on the other side.

Speaker 2:

My brain keeps going to how is this related to the topic? But I'm just going to answer the question.

Speaker 1:

There's no, there's no. It's like whose line is it anyways? No, there's no, really, it's like whose line is it anyways? The points don't matter, it's just. I'm just connecting with my husband.

Speaker 2:

I think I would be.

Speaker 1:

Getting people to know you a little bit better.

Speaker 2:

An iris.

Speaker 1:

An iris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love irises First, the way they look, those are the purple ones. They come in many colors. You can have purple, you can have yellow, white, you can have multicolored. But what I love most about them is I love the way that they look before they bloom. So they shoot up and they look like little swords, like sabers, okay. And then the flowers, before they open, they look like saber-ish.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And then they bloom, and then there's like a bunch of flowers and they smell amazing like amazing. And then they are perennial, so they spread and grow back better every year and more Okay, and I like all that about irises I like that.

Speaker 1:

When I think of irises, I think of the cartoon Alice in Wonderland.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And the iris was the frumpiest flower of the bunch. She was frumpy. She was like get this weed out of here. Like she was, she was a hater towards alice. Well, I could see you being frumpy as well sometimes sorry, how many times have I been frumpy, selena?

Speaker 2:

oh, realistically depends on when you get your coffee realistically depends on the season, I guess okay okay, I'm just that bus hurt that you threw me under.

Speaker 1:

We're back. Thank you, guys for tuning into Love by Faith, and all month long we've been talking about anxiety. We talked about how it comes and attacks your marriage. We talked about-.

Speaker 2:

The personal sides of it.

Speaker 1:

The personal sides of anxiety, and now we want to get into really the root cause of how anxiety is formed in the first place, and so in today's episode we are going to talk about fear versus anxiety versus controlling, and I feel like all three of those things together really can harm a person mentally and it can definitely harm a relationship externally and outwardly and inwardly. Kyle, you mentioned a lot in the last episode about how anxiety affected you as a man and as a husband. You talked about how it made you feel insecure. Is there ever a time or was there ever a point in your life where you felt like your anxiety was being birthed out of fear or it was being birthed out of you having to control something?

Speaker 2:

I'm sure, I'm sure, if I dig deep enough, I have examples of both Right.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So anxiety out of fear. You know where this shows up for me. Yeah, this is going to be be really, really real here okay is when we have really it's when we have really petty disagreements oh like, give me an example like I forgot to make you tea before church, oh snap, and you don't go in the car.

Speaker 2:

No, for real. And I think like I get the fear right that that's just going to keep bringing this up all day and it's going to ruin my day and we're not going to have fun with whatever we have planned for the day. Her attitude is going to be shot, and this is just me worrying, fearing that this is true or that this is what's real, but that then I start it triggers me to walk on eggshells and treat you extra cautiously, right? So this whole one little misstep on the T leads me to be uncomfortable and worrying and anxious and fearful that this is going to just spiral the rest of the day.

Speaker 1:

So I see your vulnerability and I'm going to raise you a vulnerability and I'm going to ask you is the reason why you're fearful of that and you behave this way? Is it because I actually did that in the past? Did I hang it over you? Have I been someone to rub it in your face you? Have I been someone to rub it in your face? Have I caused this fear out of my own selfish actions in the past, not knowing that it was creating a pattern of fear and anxiety to you?

Speaker 2:

Rubbing it in my face no. Drawing out the disappointment over time yes. Letting it affect the whole day yes. And so those are yes, those are experiences that have led to that, but I wouldn't say rubbing it in my face. You're really good at not doing that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Once we resolve whatever you know, you don't let it, you don't bring it back and, like you said, rub it in my face. Right, the other part of what you said was a worry, and what was the second one? The other part of what you said was a worry, and what was the second one?

Speaker 1:

About fear and control and how both of those bring out anxiety in you. So you talked about fear. Has there ever been a time where you felt like you weren't in control of something and it brought out anxiety? I have a flashback.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's hear it. Okay, Answer your question. Let's hear it.

Speaker 1:

There's a couple, but I'll I'll stick to the, the nice one we just got this house yeah and it rained really hard oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, you know okay, so it rained very hard, very fast like a mini flash flood and it got to the point where our sub pump in our basement like wasn't working and so the water was like filling into our in our basement. Okay, so we're very new to this house. A lot of things were in our basement because we we were still there was like a staging spot for all the extra stuff, all this stuff and kyle was freaking out, totally freaking out, and I had the kids.

Speaker 2:

The pump wasn't running and I knew the pump worked like we had it checked and tested.

Speaker 1:

And yes, I had the kids and I'm trying to look and see like what is the damage that's happening and kyle just like jumped all in there like dove into there, not like the water was crazy, it was like up to the ankles not even.

Speaker 2:

No, it was like barely barely over your toes barely okay.

Speaker 1:

So it was it, but it was rising. Right, the water was rising and kyle was freaking out and he had like an area rug in one hand and like a stool in the other hand and like trying to pick up a box in another hand. And I'm like Kyle, what are you doing? And he's like, just I gotta get this stuff off. Like go upstairs, leave me alone with the kids. And I'm trying to tell him like bro, if you just do, no, just I gotta get this stuff go away.

Speaker 1:

And I'm just like you know what, I'm gonna let you handle this. I'm gonna let you handle this because you didn't want to receive any feedback at that moment. You just wanted to jump in and try to control it and you were failing at it, because you're not an octopus with eight arms, you only had two. And just to see you with like an eight foot area rug underneath one arm telling me what to do, it was just like you know what. I'm gonna let you sit in this and I'm just going to let you figure this out because, Like you know what, I'm going to let you sit in this and I'm just going to let you figure this out because you're not in a position to hear anything right now, and to me that was you trying to control it. I was going to tell them about the baby bathtub incident, but I felt like this one was a little more.

Speaker 2:

This one is a good one, because my fear was this basement is about to be ankle deep yeah, right, and why isn't this pump working that I know works because I made sure it worked.

Speaker 2:

yes, so I, yes, and so in the emergency situation, my brain is just like code red, right, yes. And then I hear you asking me all these questions and I'm like she's not even focused on the problem. So my fear is that you're not really seeing how much danger that we're in. Yes, and I'm like trying to stop the danger of our stuff getting ruined.

Speaker 1:

Yes, how did we solve that? What happened?

Speaker 2:

You slowed me down, you stopped me and I looked and thought why isn't the pump right? I was able to turn off the code red and get to the checklist checklist of stuff that's supposed to work to fix this and I went over to the pump and I saw that there was a cord blocking it from actuating the the trigger. Okay, and I moved it and it started pumping and all the water went away and that was it where did you put the rug?

Speaker 2:

the rug went in the garbage because it got soaked. What do you mean? Where did I put the? And it wasn't even an area rug. It was the scrap left because we just moved in the house.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it was the scraps.

Speaker 2:

It was the scrap like big piece of the end of the roll that they had left over from when they installed our carpet.

Speaker 1:

You were just trying to carry so many things and I'm like where would he even put those things?

Speaker 2:

I was just trying to get everything off the floor. Anything softer or that could make mold, yes, but uh, thankfully it wasn't a tragedy, we didn't have to do anything crazy and the water was gone but this is interesting because that was a one-time thing, because once that problem went away, your anxiety went away. You weren't yeah, the fear was gone.

Speaker 1:

there was no more fear of this basement flooding like that winter break, every spring break I was going into a place of anxiety because I felt like I could not control those breaks, with three kids running around and neighbors ringing my doorbell and I don't know what to do with them. They're always squabbling and it just felt like I couldn't control. It felt like a flood every day. It felt like water was rising every single day and so I had to live in that and, and I guess that fear was just lingering in that season, in those seasons so let's separate this out, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so how do you separate? Am I afraid right now or am I worried about control? Am I afraid of because, like it feels like there's like they're gray areas, right like the fear is the lack of control, the the control is the fear driver yeah and so they're just two ugly heads on the same monster. Yeah right, so like you're afraid, the neighbors are going to keep bringing in a doorbell they do and so you worry about it they do and you're afraid that you're not gonna be able to entertain the kids enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so you keep worrying about it, and so it's like so would the root cause be fear, it's fear I think the whole saying this all bang, the whole shebang of anxiety. All boils down to fear fear of lack of control, fear of what, what ifs? Fear of, yeah yeah, fear of things getting in your way. Fear of outcomes, fear of others' reactions which you have no control over. Correct, so yeah, I would. It boils down to fear.

Speaker 1:

It boils down to fear, and so you know. We mentioned in the last episode how it's just this. For me, it was a hurricane. And you had to stop the hurricane and it sounds exactly the same of what happened with you in the flooding of the basement in my brain it's a blinking red light.

Speaker 1:

We had to stop you yeah from seeing that blinking red light. Yeah, and that's not always the easiest part. And so then and and then also, you said you know we removed the fear with the basement incident, but for me the fear wasn't gone until the kids went back to school. That doesn't help me with the future seasons, because now I'm conditioning myself to think fear comes at this time. I'm going to be fearful in this time, I'm not going to have control in this time. So I had to figure out how to overcome that fear and and replace it with faith.

Speaker 2:

ultimately, you know? Yes, that is the. Yeah, I'm processing, as you said, all that, because you said a lot and that's okay, you said a lot yeah, replacing the fear with faith is the move.

Speaker 2:

Yes, is the move. Wonderfully, I think we hit on it a little bit last episode. Yeah, against the root of anxiety is fear. Against the control, worry of being in control is to know what scripture says about these things, to know what, as a Christian, we can do. To know what, as your husband, I can do to lead the family the way Christ leads us.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

The way. As a wife, you know how to help and support the way the Holy Spirit helps and supports. Yes, you got that look.

Speaker 1:

I'm thinking, I'm sorry, I'm thinking because I've been a Christian and I've had anxiety.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've been a Christian, a strong woman of God, and I've still had anxiety attacks. Okay, I know that calling onto the Lord is what will help me overcome the fear, but sometimes, if I may, I will pray and I will think of God, and I'm still in a tornado that's flooding above my ankles. That's flooding above my ankles. I'm still in it and I feel like there are some people out there who might be listening, who would feel like I am calling on God and I am trying to focus on the word, and I am listening and I am reading devotionals and I still feel out of control. I still feel anxiety and it reminds me of Jesus when he was asleep in the boat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah in the midst of us fighting for our lives in this storm. You know, and I you caught me in that moment of maybe there are times when we believe, not necessarily facts, but we believe that Jesus is asleep in the midst of our storm and he's not waking up because we know as soon as we wake him up he's peace be still, the storm is done. But I think a lot of times when we are in anxiety, moments when we all we see is red and we have no control, we are thinking in the moment that Jesus is asleep and he's not doing anything.

Speaker 2:

In that time, when I I remember now being probably about 15, 16. Okay, and going through all these like spiral of what if with my mom, yeah, and what if? This and that and this and that and this and that, and trying to do 17 things at once, Just like your example of me in the basement.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And she stopped me and, in all her wonderful wisdom, she just said what is the next right thing you have to do? No, not. And I started going through and she's like no, just right now, in the next five minutes, what is the next right thing you have to do? That's good. Is it wash your hands? Is it eat a sandwich? Is it drink a cup of water? What do you have to do? And then we'll go from there. Don't worry about what's after that. Yeah, just do the next right thing and let that be enough for right now. Yes, and I go back to that when I would have a job. I had a job where I was basically I'd put out fires all day and I'd have sometimes three fires going at once. Yeah, and I'd just have to figure out what's the next right thing to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in the next 10 minutes. What is the first step I have to do? I can't think about three days from now when all the fires are done. Right, I have to just get the fire hose and put the first closest fire out. And thinking through this topic with you has brought me back to that. What is the next right thing to do? That's good and that gets me through a lot now that I'm thinking about it. When my wife is frustrated and flustered and on the edge of a breaking point with the kids, what is my next right thing to do? Is it get together the waters and the drinks for the family so we can get in the car? Is it put away the clothes, the laundry that's been lingering in the back of our minds for a week? Is it fill in the blank? Those are the two examples that come to mind quick, because they happen all the time and they do trigger our fear and worry.

Speaker 1:

It makes me think of the Bible verse where Jesus is saying only worry about today. Today has enough worries of its own. He uses the word worries. Yeah, yeah he knows that we're going to worry. He says don't think about tomorrow, Today has enough. And it makes me wonder. They don't necessarily talk about it in scripture, but it makes me wonder. You know, there were people who were possessed, there were people who were sick, there were people who were blind, there were people with leprosy. I'm pretty sure there were people with anxiety in there.

Speaker 2:

Definitely there had to have been some anxious people back in the day.

Speaker 1:

You know, thinking about Martha and Mary. Martha probably was a little anxious getting her house together.

Speaker 2:

Just a titch.

Speaker 1:

You know how dare we go into her house and it's dirty. But the whole savior of the whole world is coming in here looking at all my dust Like I should have got them baseboards cleaned days ago.

Speaker 2:

She was afraid that it wasn't going to be enough.

Speaker 1:

She was afraid that she wasn't going to measure up. She started thinking about the incontrollable things and she was trying to control it and she trying to control. Well, mary helped me, because then we could get it done quicker. You know, mary, what are you doing? Like you said you were going to be on, that's the whole reason why you came and now you're getting distracted, mary, you're so add like what do you like? Come back and focus on what we're supposed to do.

Speaker 2:

And the Lord slowed her down, and Jesus slowed her down.

Speaker 1:

But it's so interesting, why, I guess, okay, I'm having so many moments in my head right now.

Speaker 2:

One at a time.

Speaker 1:

Jesus didn't calm Mary down to make Mary sit at his feet. Okay, mary knew I'm going to go and sit at his feet because this matters more. He didn't go and touch Martha and be like Martha, calm down, come, sit at my feet. Martha had to make the choice to look at Jesus and to say I'm going to slow down enough to sit at his feet. And so, just like the storm, with Jesus sleeping, we have to not wait for God to wake up and calm us down. We have to, in our storm time, go and choose to go to him and wake him up. You know what I'm saying? Yes, head just now.

Speaker 1:

And so when I think about anxiety and when I think about fear and how it takes over, and I think about people who are just constantly fidgeting and they can't sit still and they're thinking ahead, and we're not thinking about the next best thing to do, because in our minds and I'm speaking as us, because I have gone through this but in our heads we're thinking the next right thing to do is easy. That's not the part that worries us. It's the next part that worries us. So we're going to focus on that. But for what you're saying and what Jesus taught us is that he's always there. We just have to go to Him.

Speaker 1:

We have to choose to go to Him. Yeah, we have to. We have to choose to go to him. That has to become an option in our brains to go and use that route not as an escape route, not as a save me in the moment route, but of I'm going to go to you because when I'm with you I can be still, I can gain rest, I can find peace. You will calm the storm if I just go to you first all.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, I'm processing it all that we can control, just like you said, going to him is right here in our five foot circle right that's it. I can't make my son make any choices right now. I can't make my dog make any choices right now. I can't even make my food right now because that's not in my control. Right now I can't worry about what other clothes to wear. I have the clothes that are on my back in my control right here.

Speaker 1:

I can't make my husband do something to make us look good. I can't make him be a leader in a specific area that I think would make us better.

Speaker 2:

You just messed up my whole example because, look, I'm right here, touch me, I'm close enough that you can impact, you can control that.

Speaker 1:

Not necessarily. I can't control what you do or say, I can't control what you're thinking. I can't control what you do or say I can't control what you're thinking. I can't control what you're feeling. I can't control how our-.

Speaker 2:

No, this is all outside of your control.

Speaker 1:

I can't control how you are a leader. I can't control how you're going to lead me. All I can control is can I submit to it? Can I submit to God?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's true, that's real, that's real, that is real and I hope our listeners can hear that and take it at face value and to let it soak in and work it out. That wait, let me do what's right. What can I control right here? What can I if I'm getting three steps ahead of myself? I have to stop speak the word over my life, memorize the scriptures to have power, because it tells us that we have power in the word and use that, and use that as a force of stability, as a force of overcoming fear, as a force of faith right.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And by doing that you'll notice the moments of fear shrink, the moments of fear, the tornadoes get smaller.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

The floods get shallower. Yes, the storms, the waves get smaller. All of them, all of them. And so I think, and that's why we put together the new Play in the Play book, yes.

Speaker 2:

With the scriptures to overcome anxiety. Scriptures to overcome fear, to overcome worry, to overcome feeling out of control, yes, and to remember what your calling is, what the truth is. We're reading that book with William about 13 things that all strong kids do. Strong kids do, yeah, and one of them is thinking about negative thoughts. Is it a blue thought or is it a true thought? And we put together this awesome play in the playbook to hand out, to connect with what true thoughts are, what the truth of scripture is over this area.

Speaker 1:

That's something that I'm thinking about. It kind of aligns with what you're saying. Is that, remember, you know, this whole episode is for you to understand that anxiety is coming from fear and what ends up happening is that people who are anxious, they are allowing fear to be bigger than their faith.

Speaker 1:

Not that you're not faithful, it's just you think that fear is such a bigger monster and that it is so more controlling and it's so much more vicious that we have to put a healthy fear in the Lord to truly understand how much bigger and how much more powerful he is. When standing next to said fear I think a lot of the times people don't they minimize the true power of Christ and what he can do to just use his words to shut it down. We think our fears are so big, we really really bring our fears to this large, enlarged size and we just make it so much bigger than what it actually is. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And we have to be mindful of that and I think, like Kyle said, the resources using the scriptures, that's going to help you keep that locked in. Basically, you're locking it into your subconscious so that when you have no control over your thoughts and over your body and over your emotions, the subconscious then all of a sudden unlocks it and the Holy Spirit brings it back to attention and you're like whoa, where did that verse come from? I know I learned it somewhere, but here it is, and now you're focused on that and then you realize like, oh snap, god can do this.

Speaker 2:

God is the overcomer. I shall not want.

Speaker 1:

He can dismiss this at the sound of his voice which means with us, having authority of God inside of us, we have authority to dismiss this storm. We have authority to diminish this anxiety. We have authority to call out the fear and expose it in the true light so that it can be completely diminished from our sight and in our five foot five radius, five finger radius, five foot radius. Five foot radius, yes.

Speaker 2:

That's great, it's real and it's not easy.

Speaker 2:

It's not a one-day fix. Just because you memorize the scripture doesn't mean you're going to remember to use it every time. Just because you know the tools to battle, it doesn't mean the battle is going to be over. It's just like any other temptation is. We have to battle it forever because we're in a fallen world and we hope that play in the playbook will help you battle it. I don't know if we make it. We can get a little mini one, or they could. I don't know something cool where they can take it with them.

Speaker 1:

Little cards.

Speaker 2:

And right and just have it, so that you have these scriptures to battle with.

Speaker 1:

So I could make little affirmation cards, but you print them out and then cut them up and you can have them like that and tape them places.

Speaker 2:

Let's go Something that Screenshot them and put them on your lock screen.

Speaker 1:

Something that will help hopefully this episode will help is that, by bringing awareness to what is causing anxiety, will help expose it, and once you expose it, it's easier to overcome it, because now you realize it's not a monster in the shadows. Now you realize, oh, it's just, I'm afraid of this, oh, I'm afraid that people are going to look at me weird. Okay, well, let's process that. I'm afraid that you know I can't afford it. Oh, let's process that I'm afraid that I can't afford it. Oh, let's process that the more you expose it, the more you're able to really downsize and really put fear into the size that it truly is, which is really small in comparison to what God can do for you and through you, calling those flaws by name to help you peel back the layers and apply the right medicine to each one.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Will bring the freedom, will bring the release that you've been looking for in this area.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, and so we talked a lot about anxiety. We talked about how it attacks our marriages, we talked about how it attacks specific guys and girls. We talked about what it really is and how we can overcome it. And in our last episode next week, we are going to talk about how you can specifically help your partner when it comes to this topic, when they're going through it, when they've you know it's a one moment thing, like Kyle in the basement, or whether it's an ongoing thing, like me, with a few seasons. We're going to talk about all that and how you guys can really learn how to love by faith in this season of anxiety, and hopefully we can overcome it and get through it in your relationship so that it becomes a little more minimalized in future seasons to come. So be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 2:

We appreciate you being here. Let's let's pray this out and go in peace Y'all. Lord, we are grateful that you are with us. Wherever we go, wherever we go mentally, wherever we go emotionally, spiritually, you are with us. We trust in you. Our hope is in you. We are adapted into you, we are part of your body. We give you glory, lord.

Speaker 2:

I pray for all the minds out there who are running around full of fear, full of uncertainty, full of worry. Lord. I just pray that they would be set free by your word, that they would rely on their calling, rely on what you have said as truth over their life, lord, that they are overcomers, that they are part of an overcoming church. Lord, on what you have said as truth over their life, lord, that they are overcomers, that they are part of an overcoming church, lord, that you have redeemed them, that by faith, you will bring increase and bring spiritual restoration to them, lord, mental restoration to them, and I just pray for peace in the marriages, that the couples would work together in this area, for each other and for your glory, in Jesus's name amen.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

I thought it would be like really bad okay I thought it was gonna be, you know, crying and and getting through it. But I think, because we've talked about this for so long, yeah and we've really got a handle on it and I I truly feel like I have been delivered from panic attacks. I really, in my spirit, I feel like I was delivered from that and I don't carry that into these seasons anymore amen, amen, amen, amen, like because no, that's, that's not what god has for us yes, yes, that's the truth of it, that part and it's just a.

Speaker 2:

It's just a scheme of enemies an outcome of the fallen world, Trying to think of the principalities of darkness, but it's just yeah. Scheme of the enemy.

Speaker 1:

He's petty bro.

Speaker 2:

He's fake.

Speaker 1:

He's petty Fake news.

Speaker 2:

He's fake. I think it's like my theory that bees are from God. Yes, yellow jackets are from the devil.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. What about cockroaches?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, because bees, their buzz is so harmonious and they have flowers and fruit and yes, yada, yada, but yellow jackets poison ivy definitely from the enemy right weeds are from the enemy aloe is is definitely from god yes, right, yes I don't know about that, about poison ivy is definitely from the enemy would there ever be a fruit that you think that is from the enemy? Oh, dude, what was that?

Speaker 1:

that awful cheese fruit we smelled no, but they said it cures cancer oh no, that one's good for diabetes, right, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

The other one, those big yellow nuts on the trees that we have in Cleveland. That are just nothing. They don't taste good, they don't smell good. They're just huge. They're like grapefruit size.

Speaker 1:

They're not pawpaws, are they?

Speaker 2:

No, pawpaws are good fruit. They're just ugly nuts that come off these ugly trees.

Speaker 1:

They're like trees that are flowered, but then they smell horrible. Yes, the Bradford pear, those are from the enemy.

Speaker 2:

I think those are probably from a lab somewhere in the 70s? Ooh, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. All right, well, enough of that. Yeah, Y'all take care. Now you hear.

Speaker 2:

Gonna go now.

Speaker 1:

Gonna go now bye.

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