Love By Faith
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Love By Faith
For the Ladies: Embracing Grace to Help Your Husband | Love By Faith with Kyle & Selina Almodovar #049
Discover how grace can help your husband, transform your marriage, and unlock deeper connections.
Tune in to explore the essence of being a supportive partner by embracing faith and trust in both God and each other. We break down practical insights for identifying blind spots in our roles as helpers and share exciting updates on our projects, including a sneak peek at our new website, LoveByFaithMinistries.com, and a prayer book for wives slated for release in 2025. You’ll also hear about how we’re crafting content that speaks to both singles and married couples.
Imagine the power of grace and patience in nurturing your relationship dynamics. We share personal stories that highlight the beauty of evolving preferences, like how a change in favorite color became a metaphor for self-discovery and growth in marriage.
Learn how shared tools, such as calendars, can bring harmony to your family life, and why spiritual connections are pivotal for nurturing loving partnerships. Discover how personal spiritual growth can inspire partners to become better versions of themselves and positively influence relationship dynamics.
Get ready to embrace small but meaningful gestures in support of your husband. From setting up a weekly coffee time to the transformative power of prayer, we explore practical ways to make your husband feel appreciated.
We emphasize the importance of respect and turning critiques into affirmations, drawing parallels to the Holy Spirit’s role as a helper. Plus, enjoy a playful discussion on recognizing subtle non-verbal cues, such as unintentionally funny facial expressions in prayer, and how they enrich your interactions. Join us for this engaging conversation on building supportive, faith-filled relationships.
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This week is all about how we can help our guys.
Speaker 2:You know him, you know what he needs, you see how you want to help him, but he doesn't always see it.
Speaker 1:Women get triggered because we go out of our way to help.
Speaker 2:The smallest thing you can do for your husband is.
Speaker 1:We're not perfect people.
Speaker 2:By any means.
Speaker 1:But by trusting in God we learn what it takes to build a friendship a relationship and marriage that has stood the test of time.
Speaker 2:With a keeping it real style. We're going to talk to you about everything everything that we've been through, are going through and have overcome all by learning how to lean on God and each other in order to help you learn how to love by faith.
Speaker 1:Now we have the website done. It looks so nice.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I check it out. I see all the pictures. I love the way you laid it out. I love how easy it is to find the stuff you need. Thank you, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:Um, I've been putting a lot of work into love by faith.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Not so much a whole lot of work into Selena Um Dovar.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I to like work that out because I want to reboot the YouTube and I'm writing the book for wives, you know, and I think it's a. It's a really nice tidbit to share that right now, especially because we're talking specifically for ladies for the ladies and so, uh, ladies, be on the lookout.
Speaker 1:You know we're having a wives prayer book that is going to be coming out. I thought it would be coming out this month, but it's definitely. I don't want to rush it, so we're going to take our time with it. Hopefully. My goal is to at least get it done before, uh, 2025 okay, you said we, but it's you.
Speaker 1:You're writing a prayer book for women but we, yes, we are there one we need to create more content for wives and husbands, couples for couples. Right, you know a lot of the um if you guys check out the love by faith shop. A lot of the stuff that's there is specifically for single women or women who are in relationships.
Speaker 1:But we haven't gone into the depths of marriage and what marriage needs and, um, you know, obviously the couple's playbook is the first step to that. Yep, but, kyle, when are you gonna I say all that to say when you're gonna bust out your pen and paper and drop some knowledge down on some sheets, on some paper?
Speaker 2:the best answer I have for this that is real is it is coming Right now. I have a lot of what's the saying. I have a lot of pans in the fire.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But I got to get to where what are your pans, Kyle? Where I can get the content for Love by Faith out.
Speaker 1:It takes a lot to just really get into a headspace to produce something like that, to produce a devotional, to produce a book. I say it with ease because I've been doing it for such a long time, but it wasn't always like this, and so we're not rushing you.
Speaker 2:It reminds me of when we first came to the idea of having a podcast. Okay, it reminds me of that because the idea was there, seed was planted, I was on board, the timing wasn't right, and now the idea is there, the seed is planted. I am learning and growing in this space to produce podcasts, to produce content, to bring my best here, and so that will be another, another branch, if you will. You know, another vine off of the off the tree when we get there just to learn how to do things in an online setting yeah and and which is completely different from an offline setting yeah is a whole world.
Speaker 2:It's a whole universe and it's for me, it's getting comfortable in the creating, getting comfortable in the putting it out there, and so my practice lately I've been for all of you guys who read the emails I've been the writer of all the emails, so I've been working on that to practice, to get the message, to get the timing, to get just the routine of how to create content, how to create the writing that's necessary to do this, and then to take it a step further and make new content that is engaging and is real, whether it's books, devotionals, men's daily checklists. I got lots of ideas.
Speaker 1:Okay, got a little tape recorder that you're recording all your ideas on.
Speaker 2:I do. I keep little notes in my phone.
Speaker 1:So how do you guys get emails from Kyle? Very simple you go to lovebyfaithministriescom, you can grab the free couples playbook or, at the very end, you can join our community and Kyle will send you an email.
Speaker 2:Sign up for our mailing list. That's right.
Speaker 1:You probably got an email today, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you did. It's a Tuesday.
Speaker 1:If it's a Tuesday, you got an email written by your guy this guy over here speaking of guys, speaking of girls. We're in this series of for the girls. Last week we had a very uh spicy, I don't even know if you could call it spicy, but it was just really just teaching women and helping women understand how they can desire their men more and just how to make sure their men know that they they are to be desired.
Speaker 1:This week is kind of interesting because I feel like a lot of wives, especially Christian wives, in a Christian setting. We already know this, so we're going to need help with seeing the blind spots in this Okay. So this week is all about how we can help our guys. That's good.
Speaker 1:How to be the helper for our men. And the reason why I say we have to see blind spots is because a lot of women are already going in knowing that we are the helper in the marriage A lot of the times, with our help, this house is still together and there's food and everything is running the way it should be, and there's food and everything is running the way it should be. And so for guys, for Kyle, tell me what are some common frustrations or what are some things that you see from a male's point of view that could help us, help you better.
Speaker 2:Help me, help you, so good. I think where we want to start here is start with grace.
Speaker 1:Okay, right, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:To help him. You need to show him massive amounts of grace.
Speaker 1:So we're helping him be a better person, be a better spouse.
Speaker 2:I think this is more for me when I was thinking about this and praying through this is more help him in a generic sense of how to help him just be a content in life, how to just be his partner.
Speaker 2:How to help him as his partner. How to help him as his partner is kind of the view I was looking at when I thought about this and brainstormed this idea and topic. And you know, behind the curtain we kind of each strategize how we want to talk about the topic separately so that when we get here on the mic it comes out as a conversation like this it starts with grace because, like you just said, you just said it he, you know him, you know what he needs, you know, you see how you want to help him, but he doesn't always see it, he doesn't always accept it as help. And so the grace to bite your tongue when you know you need to just zip it and let the Holy Spirit handle him. The grace to not always tell him I told you so.
Speaker 1:Not always say see, this is where you're making a big face there, I'm not I'm sorry, was I making a? Face. You totally were sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't know I was making a face wait till you see on camera how your face was the grace to accept the grace to accept him right where he's at and not push and push and push and dig and dig.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Help the ladies with grace, Selena.
Speaker 1:Okay, yes, help the ladies with grace. I feel you in what you're saying. I agree that we need to extend grace, lots of grace.
Speaker 2:Lots of grace.
Speaker 1:Lots of grace.
Speaker 2:Godly levels of grace, godly, significant levels of grace.
Speaker 1:Jesus at the well with the woman who had multiple husbands, levels of grace, of grace. It becomes very challenging for women to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is why we're talking about it, Because the level of buckets the amount of buckets of grace seems to exponentially increase by the day. I don't know if it's because-.
Speaker 2:Who are you talking to?
Speaker 1:Listen, listen. Let me explain, because I want to be very delicate about this, but at the same time, I need to keep my blood at a lukewarm.
Speaker 2:Hey, the message is the message.
Speaker 1:Yes, I understand. However, I often feel like and I'm not saying this is you and me, maybe it is you and me, I don't know, but I often feel like women, the wives we help so much you do, and you guys, you do for sure.
Speaker 1:You guys just either don't listen, are oblivious, don't care, constantly need reminders. I could put a sticky note, I could have a plane with smoke messages in the air, I could set 15 alarms on the shared calendar and telephone. I could have the dog wear a sweater that I crocheted with the message. And you guys would still ask the questions of like what are we doing today? What are we eating? How is this there? What do you mean? Like you will still act like you didn't get the memo Me.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, guys, you guys, I'm generalizing and, yes, Is this from what you've heard?
Speaker 1:from women. Holy St Kyle. There are some things that I will consistently be like, bro, what about this, bro, what about this? And you're like, what is the first time I'm hearing about it? And I'm like, bro, it's in the calendar. Like, what do you mean? Like, just look at it, I feel like I'm going to lower myself. I feel like, a lot of the times, wives and and and serious relationships, women get triggered because we go out of our way to help and it feels like you guys don't receive it, you don't care to bother to take the initiative to go and get the help and then, and then it's on us again of like, why didn't you help?
Speaker 1:why didn't I get more grace? It just gets very triggering because we do care about you guys definitely, and we do know about you guys Definitely, and we do know that we are offering a lot and we're bringing a lot to the table and we are really good helpers in that, because we do see areas that could you know. I feel like if we were a video game and you're running in this video game, I'm going behind you and I'm throwing, like patches of dirt. Or or if you're running into a puddle, like I'm throwing something so that you don't get wet, like I'm always like one step ahead trying to cover you so that you can continuously run on solid ground, you know, figuratively. And so for you guys to say buckets and goo gobs of grace upon grace, of heavenly throne room grace, rubs me a little.
Speaker 1:Like is it? Is it really like? I almost feel like, really, after all the grace we've been giving you, like really you still need more. So help me, help you. How can women and how can men come together after all of the grace they've already been receiving? Like, why does it take? So I don't know, I don't know, like if I just was so oblivious, the way guys were oblivious, I just, I just can't fathom it, don't know you think so?
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't please again, this is my blind spot. Maybe I'm completely off, but in a lot of cases that is how I feel okay, so we're gonna take this another step.
Speaker 2:You take a step back, okay, because we got into a bunch of presumptions about what the grace means. Okay, before the grace, you have to help him by understanding him yes. Understanding his blind spots yes. Understanding his triggers Okay. Understanding his strengths and weaknesses yes, right. Understanding what makes him feel good. Understanding what makes him feel bad. Understanding what makes him feel bad. Understanding what makes him feel supported. Understanding how to talk to him so he hears you, right. So help him by understanding these basics of him, understanding how to connect with him.
Speaker 1:Would you feel that this understanding phase is the majority of it is being done before marriage? No, no, this is constant While you're married.
Speaker 2:This is constant. This is because we're all changing. Correct? I'm not the dude. I was two years ago, that is correct, and so for you to understand me today would be different than what I was understood two years ago, and likewise for you.
Speaker 1:Right, we call this for the girls, but this goes both ways, and I think it's very important that we're highlighting this, because, it is true, we are constantly evolving, we are constantly changing, and so for any of us, wife or husband, if you just assume that your person is the same and you're going to treat them the same and talk to them the same and serve them the same that you have been doing for five, 10 years, you're going to run into problems because they're not that same person.
Speaker 2:Little example right here. I want to ask you about this.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Our daughter came to me the other day and asked me about my favorite color. Okay, and I said my favorite color is green. And she said you know mommy's favorite color and I you know in my head, I know when we first got married, your favorite color was always blue, yes, always blue, yes, and I said blue and she said, no, mommy's favorite color is green, yes, care to elaborate on this?
Speaker 1:Okay. So I have evolved. I. The older I got, the more I got into understanding what my color style palette is and my color style palette. I did something online. I'll link it for anyone who wants to know. I am a soft autumn, so all of my makeup, all of what I wear, the color scheme that I look best in that points out my best features my hair, my skin color my eye color. All of it is coming from a soft autumn and there are no blues in there.
Speaker 1:This is perfect Very small amount of periwinkle blue, but it transformed into a sage green because that looks best on me. And so that's what my favorite color now is.
Speaker 2:You understand yourself better.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You've grown to understand yourself, yes, and in the same way you've grown to understand me better. Yes, and in the same way you've grown to understand me better. And as we change and grow and we keep track of that change and growth to understand each other, you're able to help him. Because three years ago you tell me look at the calendar not happening. Today I know we have a shared calendar where everything goes in. Even if I'm going to get a haircut, I put it in there so that we're not double booked, because we do a lot of stuff. We have three kids, we have five calendars to manage plus everything else that we do.
Speaker 2:And so by understanding what each of us needs, by understanding how I've grown and changed, by understanding my old mistakes, my old weaknesses of not being organized, we've been able to grow and understand each other and you're able to offer more grace. Where you don't have to beat me over the head with how come you don't remember this, you could say gracefully check the calendar, honey. Check the calendar, honey. Look on the fridge. Look on the calendar on the fridge, the other calendar that we have. Check that for when the kids have have a field trip, for when they have, uh, their their gym day, so they have their special clothes for gym. Yeah, those kind of things. The the grace comes through the understanding.
Speaker 2:So it all goes together.
Speaker 1:But in order to access that level of grace right, you're going to need copious amounts of patience the woman is the woman. Okay, lots of patience, and so I feel like the best way to truly honestly, because you're asking for a tall order, okay, you're asking for a tall order to have which part is a tall order the, the grace and the patience and the unconditional of it, the un, the, the time and time and time and time and time again, the 70 times seven, seven.
Speaker 1:Okay, that is a lot, that is a God level amount. Yes, that is something that human women cannot do on their own strength, amen. And so I think the best way to truly help our guys I'm not kidding the best way to truly help you guys is we have to be mindful of how much time we are seeking the Father.
Speaker 2:Listen, I told you we don't plan these talks out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But you are just like I just laid the trap and you just fell right into it.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:so I'm trapped now Because this is right where I was going. Perfect, it's spiritual connection.
Speaker 1:See, I helped you get there.
Speaker 2:Spiritual connection matters.
Speaker 1:But women have to. They have to put that first. And if you're lacking in your time with God, if you're lacking in Holy Spirit, my husband's getting on my nerves. I need that, your grace, I need your patience. Fill me up so that when I go to my husband, I could see him in eyes of love. I could see him and handle him the way you handle me. We have to have this connection at all times. So what you're telling me, Kyle?
Speaker 1:is the best way to help you is I need to go away on my mountaintop in my prayer closet and I need to go and seek God. So that when I come out, I have the eyes of grace and I have that mantle of patience and I can serve you the way God is calling me to help you.
Speaker 2:Yes, awake. The more spiritually connected you are with the Holy Spirit, the better you're going to be to help your husband and likewise husbands. The more spiritually awake and aware and connect with the Holy Spirit you are, the less I feel like the more sharper you guys become.
Speaker 2:That's the right way to say it. I was going to say the less help you need, but the better the help will feel when it comes, because you'll be alert to it, you'll be awake to it, you will. I know there's plenty of times where you've inspired me to be better spiritually, really, and a good wife helps her husband be a better spiritual leader yeah that's a way you can help your husband not necessarily saying how come you're not doing this and I need a man who's a man of God.
Speaker 2:I will a thousand times more jealous of you praying on your own and lead me to pray on my own and encourage me to pray on my own. Then you tell me a thousand times, over and over come on, let's pray, come on, let's pray, come on, let's pray. I will receive it way more when you're just I don't need you, I'm going to God, I don't need you.
Speaker 1:I think this happened before in our time. I think one time you got really into your health and you started waking up early to go to the gym.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I remember I was like, oh, I want to do that too, like I want to get healthy too. But then for the life of me, I just couldn't wake up early, right. But then I kept seeing you do it and I was seeing the results of you being that disciplined to get up and go. And it wasn't like I would get mad because I'm like, how come you're not bringing me along and how come you're not waking me up, and how come we can't do this together? And it's almost like I was pushing off my inconsistency onto you because I was expecting you to. Was it blaming me? Yeah, maybe it was blaming. And you told me. You said Selena, you do what you want to do. I know what I want to do and I'm going to make sure I do it. And that was the motivation kick that I needed to be like, well, if he's going to do it, I'm going to do it. Like you ain't telling me what to do, you ain't about to sit here and get better while I'm sitting here, not, yeah?
Speaker 2:I remember that season being I was in the trial like I was in the gym all the time it only lasted for a little while, but it was. It was a good season.
Speaker 1:I really reflect on it, as that was a great time, but this mentally and spiritually- the same can be done with prayer and the same can be done with seeking god, and it's like you want them to do better. But they will become motivated by seeing you become better, by seeing your discipline, by seeing your action. And it's not like you're doing it to intentionally convict them, but I think, because you're seeking God, they will become convicted because they know what they need to do and they know what they're lacking and they know what they can do to remedy that. And it's just kind of seeing it in action and seeing the results of the action will push your partner to do what they have to do, so that they're where they need to be.
Speaker 2:I think this talk is so good.
Speaker 1:It is very good.
Speaker 2:My favorite part. I'm sorry I'm going to cut you off, but I got to get this out before.
Speaker 1:I forget. I have grace for you. Go ahead.
Speaker 2:That's right. My favorite part is that when we opened and I talked about grace, that look on your face says that I hit the right nerve where it is a challenge.
Speaker 1:It is a challenge because we I can't speak for everyone, but I feel like I do give you a lot of grace and after running around with three small children, giving them lots of grace, and then I have to talk to the adult who I think would have it together, but sometimes, a lot of times doesn't in small areas you're empty and you're just like how much more grace can I give? I'm out of it, I'm out of grace. Now it's time for y'all to give me grace, because I'm about to blow up, okay, and it's just like, oh, just holding it together. But again, like we said in this episode, it's so important to you. Can't do it on your own strength.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You can't do it in your own flesh. And so, okay, we talked about the heavy hitters, of how women can help their men. Is there any simple tips, any simple things of like, oh yeah, do the laundry on this day. Or like, oh yeah, you know, help me with this. That would be more helpful in the household or that would be more helpful for me as a husband. Is there anything off the top of your head that we can use as a takeaway today for wives?
Speaker 2:I would say this. I would start with this the three things that we talked about earlier with the grace, understanding, spiritual connection, heavy hitters right, they are awesome, right, but you can't just go tomorrow and do all three at once, correct, you're gonna burn yourself out, right, right, start small, pick one of them to do. If you're not sure what his triggers are, if you're not sure what his, what his uh things that set him off are, or what really makes him glow like happy, what brings him joy, what you do that brings him joy, figure those out. Start small, find what triggers his happiness and help him. You know, some guys just need a cup of coffee and some time to zone out after work. Right, right, right, just make a space for that for him once a week, not every day, once a week. Like, hey, it's your thursday coffee day, hun. You home from work, I had your coffee ready for you, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Or I set before I left for work. I set the coffee pot so that you'd be ready, right, and it's just there. Or if he needs help in the calendar. We talked about the calendar. This is a big one, right? Yes, the calendar is a great thing. You just set it up for him. Right is a great thing. You just set it up for him, right. The shared calendar? I don't remember. I think I set it up but I never started using it and you were like we got to use this and so you started it. You started it and you showed grace by showing initiative. So it starts small. It's pick one of them, right? Pray for him. Pray for him. That takes nothing from you to him, that's from you to God, but you'll see the fruit in your relationship. Just by praying for him. The Holy Spirit will bring to light how to help him better.
Speaker 2:I guarantee if you're praying whole heartfelt for your husband, for your relationship, the Holy Spirit will bring answers, will bring fruit to that.
Speaker 1:This is why I want to write the Married Woman's Prayer book. That's exactly why, because sometimes we just don't know what to pray. Sometimes we don't know how to pray for them. Sometimes we get so frustrated that we're so consumed in that frustration and that we're dumping with God, but then we don't do the second step, which is how can I now pray and intercede for? My husband in this, because a lot of the times our prayers are so self-centered about Lord.
Speaker 1:This is what's happening to me and help me deal with this, and this is what I'm thinking and I want to surrender it to you and help me be better. But instead we need to transform some of those prayers to be like Lord. I want to pray over him and this need and what he's going through and this happened because he said this or he did this or he went this route and, lord, I want to pray over that. I want to pray over this trigger. Lord, I want to pray over that. I want to pray over this trigger. I want to bind and loose any of the anger or emotional tolls that he has on himself. Lord, help me see him the way you see him, so that I know what to pray for. These are different kinds of prayers that I want to be able to give to wives so that we can be equipped and we can do that in our prayer closet.
Speaker 1:I think is one definite way. I mean when you hear that the wife is a helper to the husband. In the Bible, it is the same terminology that is used to describe the helper of the Holy Spirit. Our Holy Spirit is our helper. Jesus said I will send a helper. You have to think about it like that. What is the Holy Spirit. How does he help us? He gives us words that we use to pray to God when we don't have the words ourselves.
Speaker 1:He's our counselor. He's our guidance, he gives us wisdom abundantly, and so we have to think about that, wives, as when we are helping our husband, we can offer such things, but we can't be the best at that if we're not seeking our ultimate helper.
Speaker 2:So good. That's a perfect spot to say the littlest thing. The smallest thing you can do for your husband is just show him respect. Don't call him outside his name, don't point out all his flaws don't complain about him in front of other people build him up, show him respect including your kids show him respect. That's it. It's small, that's that is. If you need one littlest starting point, cut your critiques and turn them into respect.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's true, that's true, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's what I got today. All right, guess it was good, it was helpful. Let's pray for couples. All right, lord, you are so good. You have brought us here together to share by the power of the Holy Spirit. By our listening to you, lord, you have brought us here by others listening to the Holy Spirit. You have brought them to hear our words and hear your guidance. Lord, we pray that people would take this message and take it to the Word and wash it through the Word to see growth in their marriage, to see growth in their marriage, to see growth in their relationships, to see growth in themselves. I pray now, lord, that couples would be strengthened, that wives would seek to be better helpers, seek you to understand how to be better helpers, that husbands would receive with grace of their own, with grace from you, lord, when it's a new season, when it's a new day. Lord, I pray that these husbands would be set to receive, set to be full of your Holy Spirit, to receive. In Jesus's name, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen. Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Love by Faith. We hope that you guys continue to stick around, and the way to do that is to like, share, subscribe if you're watching on YouTube, if you're on Apple or Spotify or any of the other podcast platforms. We ask that you just give us a five-star review. Write a review, let us know how this episode impacted you and your relationship.
Speaker 1:We hope to see you guys again next Tuesday, where we're talking more for the ladies on how we can help our men and how we can learn how to love by faith. And until then, we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2:And if you want to connect with us deeper, closer, get real two-on-two help, book a call. We've got the link in our website. Get together with us. We'd be glad to spend time and share and love with you guys Absolutely.
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Speaker 2:Later, when you go through editing.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:You are going to see your face. I cannot.
Speaker 1:I know what face I was making.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm sure you do, but you didn't know it when you were doing it. I was, I did know, I just didn't'm sure you do, but you didn't know it when you were doing it.
Speaker 1:I did know. I just didn't know that you were looking at me doing it.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, you were, it was good.
Speaker 1:It was like I knew I had hit the right note.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's just tug on her notes, get her reaction, because she's feisty.
Speaker 2:I wasn't trying to rile you up. You asked me to pray and seek.
Speaker 1:You keep saying that and yet it keeps happening you know, when iron sharpens, iron sparks fly. Was that my iron sharpening face?
Speaker 2:it could have been sparks flying over there that's funny get out of here.