For the Guys: Embracing Men's Maturity in Relationships| Love By Faith with Kyle & Selina Almodovar #045

Ever wondered how maturity shapes men's lives and relationships? Join us on a journey through embracing men's maturity in relationships, as we unravel how it impacts everything. 

Drawing from personal stories and cultural touchstones like Robin Williams' character in "Mrs. Doubtfire," we explore the role of partners in nurturing maturity and managing stress while offering insights into building relationships grounded in faith and trust.

Communication is the bedrock of any mature relationship, and we spotlight its critical role in overcoming selfishness and shortsightedness. By weaving together cultural references and everyday scenarios, we shed light on how immaturity in men can breed frustration and distance in relationships. Through this episode, we aim to guide you toward fostering communication that strengthens the bonds of love and respect.

Other topics mentioned in this episode:
- Back-to-School flow
- Maturity in men
- Work from Home culture (and how it affects maturity)
- Mrs. Doubtfire
- Various Types of (Im) Mature Men
- Characteristics of a Servant Leader
- What a mature man is
- Communication among couples

Chapters

• 0:00 Men's Maturity and Relationship Expectations
• 7:58 Maturity in Relationships and Communication
• 24:21 Navigating Maturity in Marriage
• 30:31 Tongue Twister Showdown

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Today we're going to talk about men's maturity. How can they be helped?

Speaker 2: 0:04

In that moment we think, like this is a great idea because everybody's going to love it.

Speaker 1: 0:08

Make an effort and to put in the work or to pay attention, just kind of falls flat.

Speaker 2: 0:14

Did I mess? Was I wrong? Was I right, was the outcome bad.

Speaker 1: 0:17

I don't even know how to deal with you right now. We're not perfect people.

Speaker 2: 0:21

By any means.

Speaker 1: 0:22

But by trusting in God we learned what it takes to build a friendship.

Speaker 2: 0:27

A relationship.

Speaker 1: 0:28

And marriage that has stood the test of time.

Speaker 2: 0:31

With a keeping it real style. We're going to talk to you about everything.

Speaker 1: 0:35

Everything.

Speaker 2: 0:36

That we've been through.

Speaker 1: 0:37

Are going through.

Speaker 2: 0:38

And have overcome.

Speaker 1: 0:45

All by learning how to lean on. God and each other, in order to help you learn how to love by faith. Hi, zelina, hey, how are you?

Speaker 2: 1:03

I am so good, I'm so like we've been in such a great season of life.

Speaker 1: 1:09

Yes.

Speaker 2: 1:09

This transition to the new school year has been so.

Speaker 1: 1:12

It's been a blessing compared to the season we had last time.

Speaker 2: 1:16

It's just yeah, with the few weeks of kids getting used to the new routine is over and we're in it and they're really adapting to it well and they've taken to it quickly. Yes, and our teamwork has gotten good in the morning and so I'm feeling really comfortable. How are you feeling?

Speaker 1: 1:32

it's it's hit or miss. It's hit or miss especially because you're at work during the second half of the day, when the kids come home, that homework, and so the homework, the dinner, the showers, the bedtime, chill out, go to sleep. That's all we're working on that.

Speaker 2: 1:52

Day by day, but it's getting better. It seems like the days that I come home where you're like, tag me out right now, have been a while. God's glory. That's nice you're mentioning the kids getting used to school and getting used to all this and it all comes with, like, how they're maturing. Yes, and as they mature more like you know our kids. Our oldest is in third grade, so when our oldest is in like sixth grade, that maturity level is going to be like crazy dad, I'm up, I'm dressed.

Speaker 2: 2:26

I'm hungry I cooked breakfast for myself. I'm hungry. And maybe this is pie in the sky, but I'm hungry. I'm hoping that those that that maturity really kicks in.

Speaker 1: 2:35

I love that you're bringing this up, because this is going to be our topic for today the men's maturity. You know, it's so easy to distinguish the maturity level from a toddler to a kid, from a kid to a bigger kid from a bigger kid to a teenager and all that.

Speaker 1: 2:52

But then what ends up happening is that you meet men and they have this frat boy, meathead mentality. Not all men Okay, let me put it out there Not all men are like that. There are some guys that are just about their business, very driven, as we talked about in the last episode, very on fire for God, as we talked about in the other episode, but sometimes the maturity to just make an effort and to put in the work or to pay attention just kind of falls flat. I mean, you could be the most sound man out there in a church setting, but then you don't know how to put your clothes in the laundry. You know what I'm saying? Like okay, so today we're going to talk about men's maturity, and for the guys, how can they be helped? For the girls, how can we help them?

Speaker 2: 3:48

And so the maturity comes in so many different levels and layers right. Yes, so getting up and going to work or being a man that provides is one level of maturity.

Speaker 1: 3:57

Yes, right, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 3:59

Getting the business side done is one level of maturity. But also being able to be that man and come home and be mentally available for your wife and be mentally available to your kids is another layer of maturity. And this isn't always easy, right? Because you have hard days, you have horrible days, you have days where work just sucks it out of you, where you come home and you're like I just need to be tagged out. And I think think the um big challenge today is the the whole work from home slash hybrid environment where we we used to have people able to eat. I get to now when I drive home from work. I have that transition from kyle at work to kyle at home. I have that transition of being able to just take all the whatever I had to deal with that day and just leave it behind, leave it in the wind per se as I'm driving home, and there's a lot of guys who are working from home and who have their office and then step out of their office, snap right into home life.

Speaker 2: 5:02

So, he didn't have even 10 minutes to decompress and to really gather his thoughts, and so he could be so strained and so stressed coming out of that, but have no choice but to keep going. And so the overflow of that, the fruit of that, is going to look like immaturity. It's going to look like he's not available mentally and emotionally. Fruit of that is going to look like immaturity. It's going to look like he's not available mentally and emotionally and really he's not. How he responds to that and how she responds to that is going to make a world of difference in that relationship.

Speaker 1: 5:32

I see what you're saying. I see that guys have to switch from being a professional straight tie man to all of a sudden has to be the helper in the home. But I'm looking at maturity differently. Okay, when I think of an immature man, I think of two different people, okay, and the very first example that comes to my mind when I think of an immature man is I think of the movie Mrs Doubtfire and I think of Robin Williams, how he brought a llama into somebody's house for their 13th birthday.

Speaker 1: 6:02

And the wife is like working to the bone, like she has to be that, that mom who goes to the office every day. She comes home. Her house is a mess. She comes home, the kids are not fed, dressed, prepared for the next day. She has to pull all of the slack, she has to get everything done and the guy is just the good cop, the funny man, the friend to the kids, and there's a lack of maturity there.

Speaker 1: 6:31

That's the first example I think of when I think of an immature man. The second example that I think of with an immature man is a man who is insecure, a man who is just not secure in his partner, who is always questioning her whereabouts, how she said things, why she didn't say things, why she didn't consider him Almost like he wants her to be his second mother, with added benefits, and she is wanting him to kind of just step up and be the man and act like a man and do man things and mentally do that. And there's that lack, there's that frustration of like why aren't you just stepping up and being this secure, masculine person who can be totally secure in who he is and in what we are in a relationship? So those are the two like off the top of my head, those are the two immature men that I think of.

Speaker 2: 7:30

So in hearing what you're saying, I hear a lot of expectations from the woman to the man. Yes, right, and I hear a lot of kind of unspoken expectations. So she expects him to be this man of her image, while he's just being the man of his image and they're not on the same page, connecting about what their relationship needs from each of them. Yeah, right, so he's thinking I'm going to bring back to Mrs Doubtfire.

Speaker 1: 7:58

Yeah, let's talk about that first.

Speaker 2: 7:59

I'm going to do something awesome for my kid here for their party.

Speaker 1: 8:01

Right.

Speaker 2: 8:02

I'm going to.

Speaker 1: 8:03

Let's jump on tables.

Speaker 2: 8:04

I'm going to awesome for my kid here for their party.

Speaker 1: 8:05

Right, I'm gonna, let's jump on tables I'm gonna yeah, let's invite everyone over.

Speaker 2: 8:08

I'm gonna have a petting zoo. Come to come to our house yeah, and on a tuesday not that deep it is deep for some women. I'm gonna have a petting zoo come to our house. I'm not gonna talk about it with my wife. She's gonna be so surprised. It's gonna be awesome for the kids. But in that moment we think like this is a great idea because everybody's gonna love it in the.

Speaker 2: 8:27

In the reality of it is you didn't think it through it's gonna make a mess, it's gonna be hard to manage these kids. We're gonna have goats running around our neighborhood and who knows how it's gonna really if the kid even gonna like it right right right, and so it's communication. It is communication.

Speaker 1: 8:45

it boils down to communication because, okay, but here's the other thing. Here's what makes the man immature is because a mature man would do this, would bring the llama to the party, and then the wife would be like what the heck? What are you doing? Don't you understand what just happened? Like let's break this all down. This is why I'm upset. Yeah, they have communication, but then the next weekend he does something else completely as childish as the first time around he doesn't hear. He hears but he's not registering. And that's what makes him immature and that's what makes it frustrating and that's what makes it feel like you are on a whole nother. I don't even know how to deal with you right now, because I already have kids and I'm already being a mom to other people.

Speaker 2: 9:26

So from these descriptions you're saying that maturity is equal to being considerate about your partner.

Speaker 1: 9:34

Yeah, Because I feel like sometimes guys are immature not because they're not communicating, but because they're just selfish and they just want to do their own thing and they just feel like they can get away with doing their own thing so a mature christian man is selfless yes is considerate to the team first yes

Speaker 2: 9:52

before the self well, yes, according to scripture, you're dying to the church well, yeah, that's what I'm getting at yes is that, yes, that by the scripture, by the image of christ, which we're supposed to be for the home.

Speaker 2: 10:04

It's self-sacrifice, it's serving leadership, it's doing what's best for the team, talking to the team, including the team in the action so that the team isn't left behind. How many of us have been in a work group where we're trying to get a project done and one person is just like I'm just going to get it all done and then tell the team this is what we did and the rest of the team was like, hey, I had ideas about that, I wanted to give input on that before you made that decision. And even if they agree with the decision, it's still like I wanted to be a part of that. You know that leaving them behind is huge. I mean, I know I've messed up in the past where you were like you just did this and left me behind. Like, did I mess? Was I wrong? Was the outcome bad? And even if the answer is not really, it's still like.

Speaker 1: 10:54

There's a heavy load that now we have to pick up the pieces.

Speaker 2: 10:56

You can be right but say it wrong, and then you're wrong. Right you can be right but do it wrong, and then you're still wrong. I think the maturity in that is the thinking two, three steps ahead.

Speaker 1: 11:07

Not only that, but being considerate and mindful of what you're doing and how it affects everything else. Like going back to the movie Mrs Doubtfire. It wasn't until he got paid to do services that he never thought about doing as a partner and as a teammate that he realized like, wow, this is, she's got a lot on her plate and these kids are really awesome. You know like, yeah, it wasn't until he got that into perspective. But usually guys who are acting in an immature sense they are not being considerate, like you said, being two, three steps ahead, but they're also not thinking of how this is going to react and affect everything else. Yeah, around it, it's good where I feel like the, the girl, you know, or if it's by, if it's vice versa, you know whatever, but if the girl you know, or if it's vice versa, you know whatever, but if the girl is stuck having they have no choice but to think about everything else, because they know that this dude is only thinking about one thing and one thing only.

Speaker 1: 12:01

Which is Himself.

Speaker 2: 12:03

Okay.

Speaker 1: 12:03

And so we feel like we have to be the buffer and we have to, like you know, go around and make sure and double check and, you know, make sure that everything is being cared for and being minded for. And it becomes exhausting, it becomes frustrating, it becomes old. After a certain amount of time it gets old and then that's when attitudes start to shift, and that's when love starts to fade, and that's when relationships start to get rigid and, honestly speaking, that's when Relationships start to get rigid and, honestly speaking, that's when Relationships start to get rigid.

Speaker 2: 12:33

Yes, okay.

Speaker 1: 12:34

And that's when I say that? Because then the woman is stopped, she stops caring.

Speaker 2: 12:39

So it's rigid in the sense of everything is kind of-.

Speaker 1: 12:42

Now you're just annoying.

Speaker 2: 12:43

Yeah, okay, she's just getting okay.

Speaker 1: 12:46

Getting tired, yeah, and you're annoying and I don't respect.

Speaker 2: 12:49

Respect you anymore so we're getting to the point where everything he does is wrong because he's done so much wrong for so long but he doesn't see it because he's on his own path, thinking this is right.

Speaker 1: 13:00

Am I wrong for doing it? No, wasn't it great anyways? Yes, like he's on his own path, he's not taking into consideration where he actually is in a relationship when you enter into relationships. It's not taking into consideration where he actually is in a relationship. When you enter into relationships, it's not just him and her, it's you guys are doing something together. You have to mesh everything together. So now it's no longer I'm going to do this my way. It's. I am a part of somebody, to become one, and you can't think about the part where you were separate and in alone yeah because that person is gone so let's get this train, the guys, immaturity train, yes on the track.

Speaker 2: 13:40

Okay for the guys. For the guys, how can his lady, how can you help the women, approach him when he doesn't see it?

Speaker 1: 14:59

You tell me, because there's the very fine line of every time we try to correct or show a fault in a man, it can come off as nagging, it could come off as complaining, it could also borderline, be used against us and then we're gaslit. So a lot of the times you know we might do it nicely the first time. It's like children. It's like children. You say it nice. The first time You're trying to gentle parent, you're trying to gentle parent your spouse when they're acting this way and you're saying it nice and you're repeating it and then you get a little firm and then you get a little hard and next thing you know you're just done, you're yelling or you're just over it. You don't say anything anymore because it's like I'm wasting my breath, I'm wasting my time. And then that's when walls come up and doors get shut and you're really in a bad place in your relationship.

Speaker 2: 15:57

A mature guy is able to hear disagreement, hear correction, hear requests from a spouse for improvement and act on them. A mature guy is able to hear these calls for help from his partner and not shut that down. They're able to say, wait a second. They're able to look inside and say, hey, she is coming to me because I need to fix this, and take it seriously.

Speaker 1: 16:26

Yes.

Speaker 2: 16:28

And not get defensive or get defensive, but admit the flaw and put effort into fixing it.

Speaker 1: 16:35

A mature man knows the difference between being playful and being serious and mindful. A mature man knows the difference between this was funny, this was a joke, everybody was entertained and it was all fun and games versus this is a serious thing she's not happy about or that the house is not happy about, and I need to do a better job of stepping up and correcting what I did.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Mature man is able to respond in love when he's corrected, when he is told you're not helping me here, you're hurting me here.

Speaker 1: 17:12

Yes.

Speaker 2: 17:13

So good you go back to. It's like talking to a kid. Yes, I want to go back to that for a second, because communication is communication period. Right, talking to another person whether they're six or 36, is talking to another person. So the first time you do, you might use different words, right, but the first time you say, hey, this is an issue, can we do something about this, they say, yeah, I'll do something about it. Then it doesn't change and you might come back. You're coming back more firm. It's the same, right, it's not like you're talking to a kid, but the the person is responding immaturely and not making the correction, so that you do have to come back and talk like a kid.

Speaker 2: 17:51

Right, right, for the guys, the takeaway is to hear your partner here. They really hear their heart, not just hear their words, but hear their heart. And I think I think guys, guys, we're so sensitive. We have to be no, you for real. You have to be in the right spot, like if it's in the moment, right after he just screwed up, he won't hear it. He's gonna be super defensive, right? Yeah, give him a minute to decompress. We're talking about the decompression after work. Give him a minute to decompress. We were talking about the decompression after work. Give him a minute to decompress from the situation and then approach him, pray, pray for the Holy Spirit to guide that interaction, because you know how your husband reacts. Yeah, right, and for the new couples, it's going to take time. It's going to take messing up. It's going to take those might take some shouted out conflicts, right? Some shouted out arguments for your debates.

Speaker 2: 18:42

Yeah, Right Having some, some what, how did my pastor put it?

Speaker 2: 18:46

Some intense fellowship intense fellowship intense fellowship between between the partners and and really get to that, to that point where you can hear her and respond and just cause she's. There are times where she's nagging and you got to say, hey, you're nagging me about this because you told me that you wanted this and I did that, and now it's you want this and this and you're pushing me too far Right. Last layer, I think not even last, but just another layer I want to hit on is again we're sensitive, right. When you see him make that effort, don't belittle him, lift him up. Don't belittle him. Lift him up like if he's. If you see him making the effort, don't go with the oh, it's about time you picked up that towel.

Speaker 2: 19:30

That's about time you picked up that robe, yeah, like put your hand on his shoulder man, I see that like give him that real appreciation, not the sarcasm, you know, sarcasm is such poison for relationships, bro, and will bring any dude to just come right back with more sarcasm right back at you. Yeah, you know, and then it's it's, it's disrespectful and it's immature.

Speaker 2: 19:55

Yeah, both sides, from both sides and as a dude for the guys. If sarcasm is your response, if you think sarcasm is your second language, check your heart, bro. That is just creating you and your wife squabbling, bickering, you know. Put downs some of the sarcasm you get to put downs, yeah you know what I mean?

Speaker 1: 20:13

yeah, it is, it's a, it's a thin layer.

Speaker 2: 20:15

Oh, she's so, ocd, I can't even leave a towel on the floor for two like that. That's not cool, you know? Yeah. Or belittling her request, like she seriously cares about how clean the house is, pick up the towel.

Speaker 1: 20:27

One of the things that I it's one of my biggest pet peeves is when somebody describes my spouse as a child of like oh he's your fourth child, you know, or oh, you know, and it's only to me. I feel like it's only because you're projecting what you have in your household, you know, it's only what you're seeing in your household. It doesn't mean that that's how all men are, because I feel like you're not marrying a child, you're marrying a man. Yeah, you're going out to marry a man. If you're single out there, you're looking for a man Right, and one of the qualities of men is they are mature, right, they are mature to most levels.

Speaker 1: 21:07

And I think a lot of the times women, they see their man acting immature over a one-time thing when they're dating and they're just like oh, it was because they were having fun. Oh, they were letting loose, oh, that was just. They count it as a one-time thing, they count it as a special occasion behavior instead of really looking at the bigger picture of like, wait, is this how my man thinks about things? Is this how he processes it that they do start falling into these childish behaviors and you have to do something about it, because he knows he's a man. He was at that altar standing as a man. You went down that aisle to a man and so you have to make sure that you treat him as a man.

Speaker 1: 21:57

The minute you start to feel like you are comparing him to a child, the way the society compares him to a child, that's when you, the girl, the wife, has to step up and treat him like a man.

Speaker 1: 22:09

You know, yes, you guys are sensitive, but you're also men Like you can handle when I'm direct and saying like this is we need to change this to a certain extent and the expectations of I expect you to be a man, I expect you to come correct, I expect you to hold it down. That is something that I don't think you should sugarcoat or walk on eggshells with, because if they want to be men, then treat them as a man and respect them as a man and love them like a man, don't love them like a child. The minute you get that immaturity in there and you start to get confused with am I raising another child, is the minute you have to stop yourself and say wait a minute, I didn't marry a child. I'm going to treat him as a man. I'm going to love him as a man. I'm going to serve him as a man. I'm going to talk to him like a man.

Speaker 2: 22:58

We do this with our kids in that they're eight and six and three, but we talk to them like they're 10 and eight and five and we were teaching them ahead Right, and so for the guys, if I could talk to the ladies, I would say I'm reinforcing what you said is talk to them as the mature man that you want them to be. Talk to them that as how you want them to be right. It's, it's, it's affirming that man you see in them. It goes back to the potential. You see that potential, for if he did all this, if he was more mature in this area, speak to that potential. Speak to to who that is. I remember you telling me about how to speak your love language better and how, when we were first married, it would impact how you speak my love language better, and I never considered being immature at the time being married so short in that time that they're connected.

Speaker 2: 24:02

How you love her is how she's going to love you back, and it could go both ways, because how you love him can go back to how he loves you I want to love her the same way I feel loved right, right and, and so that's so good to speak in life. I got one more thought when you were talking. We've been been using a lot of in-the-home examples. Right, pick up the towel. I've been using, pick up the towel.

Speaker 1: 24:26

Close the cabinet doors.

Speaker 2: 24:28

These things.

Speaker 1: 24:28

Take the trash out.

Speaker 2: 24:30

And this is where I think a good reminder that society pushes into you should. How does the saying go?

Speaker 1: 24:39

Take your dish from the table to the no no, no, wait, wait, wait, don't let me lose it here Throw the food off the plate.

Speaker 2: 24:44

The society goes to the you should. Oh man, you're not going to Fix the bud. Stop it, selena. You're messing up my thought pattern. I can't.

Speaker 1: 24:55

I'm losing it. He doesn't do these, they're just I made me lose my thought pattern here.

Speaker 2: 25:00

I had a good thought You're still going to have it. Society tells us that we should try out living together before we get married. Oh, and I think that these growing pains of figuring out how to live together after you're already married, when there's no way out according to scripture, when there's no way to just call it quits, will make us work harder to love each other better. And I think it's a trap that people fall into thinking, well, we should live together for a year or two to see if it works, before we get married, where I think that living together for the first time after you're married makes it more fruitful, because in that newlywed phase, in that honeymoon phase, phase where you just have such rose-colored glasses for the other person, you're so much more willing to persevere through that hardship, where, in that living together and not being married, you're the opposite, you're looking for every red flag to just dip.

Speaker 1: 26:00

Yeah, and we want to avoid that, you know what it does is when you I've done it both ways when you live with someone before you get married, you're living under conditions. If they do this, if they're this messy, if they're this bad, then I'm out.

Speaker 2: 26:16

Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:17

Versus when you are married. You're taught and you're committed because the marriage commits you. You took this vow, you made this covenant not just with yourself, but with the people who were in presence at the wedding and with God. You're making a triune covenant. Right yeah To unconditionally love, and you can never unconditionally love. Only God can unconditionally love. We are always going to love with some condition and you can never unconditionally love. Only God can unconditionally love. We are always going to love with some condition, but at least when you're married, you are committed to reach towards the unconditional.

Speaker 2: 26:53

Right.

Speaker 1: 26:59

So that when you see dirty dishes in the sink or when you see the TV's on too loud and he's sleeping on the couch at midnight and you keep telling him to go to the bed, or whatever the case may be, or he brings a llama into your living room for a 3 pm birthday party, at least you're able to say I committed to loving you past this. We're going to have a conversation about it, but it's not going to be a condition that would break me from what we both committed to doing, which was loving each other and growing together.

Speaker 2: 27:30

That's right.

Speaker 1: 27:30

Growing together. Just because you came into a marriage with some immature traits doesn't mean you're going to end that marriage still being this immature person. Just because your mother didn't teach you how to be a mature man and you're still trying to pull on your girl to be that second mom doesn't mean you can't get out of that. You can't break free from that and become the man that you want to be and the man that she sees you as. That's it.

Speaker 1: 27:55

Okay, and so I just wanted to put that out there. That's good To kind of hone in on your point.

Speaker 2: 28:05

And, yeah, bros, any last minute thing. My last closing arguments is that for the guys, maturity never stops right. What maturity looked like for me as a newlywed at 25 is not what maturity looks like for me. Three kids house. Three kids house, yes. Later, yes, 12 years of being married almost it's not the same and it never stops so it's. It's always a constant work, it's always a constant focus of, of moving forward and it takes lots of patience and perseverance and prayer and holy spirit guidance. Speaking of prayer, let's pray we appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2: 28:42

Lord, I'm grateful for everyone who shows up. Lord, I'm grateful that you have put it in our hearts to be here, and I pray that you would continue to guide us. I pray over the relationships that are hearing these words, that they would have new hope, that they would have new tools, new willingness to persevere, new willingness to work together and new understanding of what it means to be mature in a relationship. And I thank you, lord, for this day, and I just pray that, as we go on, we go in peace and with your guidance, in Jesus's name, amen.

Speaker 1: 29:18

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Speaker 2: 29:49

we'll see you then have a good one everyone bye that was heavy. I need to go like that was a lot that was wanted a whole month to talk about the guys. I mean I'm glad that we got into like that was real man, that was real stuff that guys would go through.

Speaker 1: 30:11

Yeah, man.

Speaker 2: 30:13

And the part about nagging. Yeah, man, it's such a fine line, it is yeah.

Speaker 1: 30:19

Nagging nightingale.

Speaker 2: 30:23

What Nine nagging nightingales nibbling on your nose?

Speaker 1: 30:27

is that? Did you just make that up? Wow, that's impressive. I just go back to the woodchuck yeah how much wood could a woodchuck check a woodchuck?

Speaker 2: 30:37

peter piper picked a pack of pickled peppers seashell, seashells by the seashore sally sells the seashells by the seashore what?

Speaker 1: 30:44

what about shelly? I don't know about shelly shelly sells seashells which sally by the seashore I think shelly scoops sand, sometimes sundays did you make that up too? Yeah, man you're good at this. I can't make this up. Walls white with windows watching warthogs.

Speaker 2: 31:05

William welcomes words wisely on Wednesdays.

Speaker 1: 31:07

Okay, now you're just bragging Time to go Cut it. Now you're making me look bad, mr Tongue Twister. I don't need to be a tongue twister, I speak fast enough. All right, don't get me mad, I gotta go to work. That's a whole tongue twister in itself.